1st generation: 2 correct copies, 1 incorrect copy (, 2nd generation: 4 correct copies, 3 incorrect copies. However, it completely ignores evidence from versional manuscripts (translations) and the early church fathers. What Textual Variants? Here is the website If every word is important, does it not make sense that God would preserve all of His words so that we might nourished and strengthened? The Greek manuscripts upon which the KJV is based And, finally, when do you hope to see the church rediscover what you believe they have lost? I supplied the Greek out of our Latin version. (And before you bring up Hebrews 4:12, realize that in context its talking about Jesus there too). Again, the odds of all those scribes making the same error is vanishingly low. Pietersma, Albert and Wright, Benjamin. I finally feel i have a grasp on the topic. Co-chairs. Textus Receptus means "Received Text" and refers to the published Greek New Testament text that was used as the basis for Bible translations in the Reformation period. The Confessional Position says the God must have kept (the scriptures) pure in all ages. Combined with the ones that arent meaningful, you have over 99% of all Textual Variants make no impact on meaning whatsoever. Apart from a clear indication that such consensus texts were produced by formal recension, it would appear that normal scribal activity and transmissional continuity would preserve in most manuscripts not only a very ancient text, but a very pure line of very ancient text., Source. These different philosophies naturally produced slightly different results, Overall, the Critical Text of the modern Greek New Testament bears a remarkable resemblance to the original work done by Westcott & Hort. Origen, the Alexandrian church father in the early third century, said: the differences among the manuscripts [of the Gospels] have become great, either through the negligence of some copyists or through the perverse audacity of others; they either neglect to check over what they have transcribed, or, in the process of checking, they lengthen or shorten, as they please., Origen is of course speaking of the manuscripts of his location, Alexandria, Egypt. The remainder dont impact major doctrines, and certainly nothing concerned with salvation or the Gospel. More sharing options. Thanks, I remember from your previous post you recommend the ESV. This very thing, or something very close to it, was subsequently proposed by textual critics in the 1900s. This consideration revives the view that the Homeric vulgate was in existence before the Alexandrian period [Such] compels us to assume a central, average, or vulgate text. So yeah, it probably does have some influence from Hort, and yes the OT base isnt exactly the same; it literally cant be the same since hte only people who know have been dead for hundreds of years. The earliest Septuagint manuscripts are from the 2nd century BC. Origen, the Alexandrian church father in the early third century, said: Origen is of course speaking of the manuscripts of his location, Alexandria, Egypt. The root of this is an error in translation, as well see in a moment. Just be careful that you arent teaching as doctrines the precepts of men., which honestly is thebiggest problem with the Confessional Position. Between these extremes, a medium or vulgate text exists, which resisted both the popular expansions and the critical revisions; this text continued in much the same form from the early period into the minuscule era. The original texts were written in all capital letters and there were no spaces between the words. Not perfect by any stretch and it definitely has mistakes, but very good overall. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. There may well be one, but I dont know which one. He lived in the late 1800s and early 1900s. Their text was heavily based on the Codex Vaticanus and Codex Sinaiticus. I know what you will say, because its your go-to answer to all your critics, Show me the inerrant text! So you start with the human evidence, not with faith in Gods promises. The Doctrine of Preservation of Scripture is the foundation problem that exists with those who question the authority of the Bible. Theres a Textual Variant on the word gentle. Listen to this: How does this article fold in with the Best Bible Version article? The Textus Receptus goes back to the early Christians. According to WEBs rules, that person should rename his Bible translation. Westcott & Hort Had Questionable beliefs? 17 Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. The Majority Text and the Original Text: Are They Identical? For the vision is yet for a time, and it shall shoot forth at the end, and not in vain: though he should tarry, wait for him; for he will surely come, and will not tarry. 21. Thus, the only major Christian center left is Byzantine Empire. The Pharisees did not challenge Him on the accuracy of His quote. They argue that any uncertainty is 100% uncertainty. Thank you! . (I confess I skimmed through parts) How can two walk together unless they be agreed? The NKJV is one of two translations I recommend in my article on Bible translations. This is our example, but Read reviews from world's largest community for readers. Did you even bother to examine those verses? i.e. Im not a KJV only follower This actually makes a lot of sense if you look at the Greek word used. He returned to the monastery some 15 years later, partially in hopes of recovering the manuscript. Its over 90% intact/complete, which is incredible for a manuscript of its age. For those who believe that divine authority rests in the original text, and not in readings created by copyists, this is not a good idea. Further, the Byzantine texts went 1000+ years with manuscripts changing very little. I have to say that spiritually, I agree with your Spoiler Alert and recommendations before I even read them The Holy Spirit truly guides us into all truth! Whatever may be thought of it, it is a book that one is proud to be contemporary with My feeling is strong that the theory is unanswerable. Further, we have relatively few Western text type manuscripts. They began speaking Latin, and thus moved away from Greek scriptures and into Latin translations. I am very thankful to have found your work. A glance at the transcription will show just how common these corrections are. This reading ranks second in terms of the number of manuscripts containing it, and has a wider distribution among text-types. They have been made available to every generation (Psalm 33:11; Psalm 100:5; Psalm 119:89-90; Isaiah 59:21). Mediocre might be the best description, though some would say poor. A reading combining two simple, alternative readings is later than the two readings comprising the combination. Are there other signs that this translation is really not that different from other modern translations? But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. which is every-thing in red. It has significant downsides which well look at after the pro side. Likewise, the footnotes betray a liberal bias. There are good mathematical reasons (which well look at) for this method. Remember the verse before Jesus talked about how He wasnt going to destroy the (Mosaic) Law. Paul, just because the NKJV is more elegant in rendering lifeblood instead of blood or bloodshed instead of shed blood does not support the nonsensical argument that the NKJV deleted words. The AV translators relied heavily upon the work of William Tyndale and other editions of the English Bible. Do you have a source for the first one? Yet the conclusions of Homeric scholarship based on a transmissional-historical approach stand in sharp contrast to those of NT eclecticism: We have to assume that the original was a medium [= vulgate] text The longer texts were gradually shaken out: if there had been free trade in long, medium, and short copies at all periods, it is hard to see how this process could have commenced. There is one man who has proposed another model I find agreeable, and I confess I got many of my ideas from him. 7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever. The [fourth-century] text of Chrysostom and other Syrian [= Byzantine] fathers [is], must have had in the greater number of extant variations, The overwhelming majority of readings, almost all variants, and practically all the substantive variants in the text of the New Testament, The criticism of the Homeric epics proceeds on much the same line, The shorter form in Homer is considered to reflect Alexandrian critical know-how and. The best translations article is much more practical. It has often been stated by Majority Text advocates that good money pushes out bad, and the same principle can be applied to Textual Criticism. Good read for the history and context of the KJV. (The text was essentially unchanged in the intervening 26thedition, which had essentially the same text as the third edition of the UBSGreek New Testament.) Thank you. Eminent scholars such as E. C. Colwell, G. D. Kilpatrick, and Kurt and Barbara Aland maintained, respectively, that The overwhelming majority of readings, almost all variants, and practically all the substantive variants in the text of the New Testament existed before the year 200. Exactly. I unrolled the cover, and discovered, to my great surprise, not only those very fragments which, fifteen years before, I had taken out of the basket, but also other parts of the Old Testament, the New Testament complete, and, in addition, the Epistle of Barnabas and a part of the Pastor of Hermas. ), The 1633 Elzevir was extremely similar to the other editions mentioned, especially the Beza 1565. (Only 1:35 long, starting at about 0:53). 2. Ken Johnson also does an expose on the issues and older documents. There one can observe that between NA25 and NA27, there were 397 changes in the Gospels, 119 in Acts, 149 in the Pauline Epistles, 46 in the General Epistles, and 29 in Revelation, for a total of740. and to offer a sacrifice according to what is said in the Law of the Lord, a pair of turtle-doves, or two young pigeons. Furthermore, manuscripts should be weighed, not counted, and the peculiar traits of each manuscript should be duly considered. I read this article and the one you did on the best Bible version. I dont have a link, but might add one. The fact that the Byzantine Text type dominates the manuscript copies is proof of disproportionate copying. That will take a willingness on your part and revelation on Gods. Thank you. I want to save you the embarrassment of standing before God having led others astray. He also says that it uses a different Old Testament text than the KJV. Ive really enjoyed it and Ive learned a lot! Koine Greek New Testament - Accented Scrivener 1894 Textus Receptus . The Textus Receptus is Latin for Received Text. century. He will gather the lambs with His arm, However, the originals were copied many, many times. Such is the power/authority of the covering on the head of the woman. If one wishes to speak about the majority, why restrict the discussion only to extant Greek witnesses and not include the versional witnesses? Here is an excellent definition of Textual Criticism from Dan Wallace, who is one of the most respected Textual Critics in the world today. Thank you. The new birth gives a desire of obedience to follow the Lord Jesus Christ in Salvation and bear good fruit. The idea that God through His power and wisdom perfectly preserved the scriptures for faithful Christians to use in all ages. on the blue letter bible (blb) website, the interlinear tool lets you compare translations of the new testament (word by word) to either the textus receptus (tr) or the morphological greek new testament (mgnt); depending on whether or not the base greek text of the translation you're examining is the tr (king james/new king james) or the mgnt Lift it up, be not afraid; The primary authority for a critical textual decision lies with the Greek manuscript tradition, with the version and Fathers serving no more than a supplementary and corroborative function, particularly in passages where their underlying Greek text cannot be reconstructed with absolute certainty. Can you state the one very important verse that will lead some into sin that is in the WEB bible. (search at the top) Its very useful and helpful, plus beginner friendly. In many ( but not all) cases it's very clearly the Septuagint, because (1) the exact same Greek words are used, in the same order; and (2) where they differ, the Septuagint is being followed. The Lords Bank radio station. The problem was Westcott & Horts application of the theory. Believing the Gospel is the act of taking the Word and Christ as direction of the future. Regardless of the third quotation they bring up, why is it ridiculous if thats what Erasmus explicitly stated he did, and included this statement in his annotations, and gave the reason why he included it in his annotations? This was an interesting article. I would very much like this short list. The septuagint is a greek translation of the Old Testament. It is pitting your limited human experience and learning against the stack of Gods promises, His power, and His faithfulness concerning His Word. It might sound simplistic, but theres a good mathematical reason and a good common sense reason behind it. However, the majority of these manuscripts are later than Alexandrian manuscripts. In the Gospels alone, Vaticanus has 197 particular readings, while Sinaiticus has 443. The first was Erasmus though, so lets take a closer look at it. NASB95 and NKJV are the two translations that I recommend, see my article on Bible translations for more detailed info on why. One appears to be of mediocre quality, the other of good quality. Literally, Jesus became our substitute in death for sin on the cross by shedding His blood for our redemption and remission of sins, so that repentant believers will trust Him for life everlasting. Those are the Westcott & Hort rules, and the Aland/Aland Rules. Codex Alexandrius is the third oldest (nearly) complete manuscript, dating from the early 400s. It wasnt until he focused on the shield of faith that clarity and direction were restored. Thanks again, giving honor where honor is due. Please notice the casual dismissal of the Byzantine text type by one of the most respected textual critics of our age. He said, Search the Scriptures. (Side note: Ive spent some time in the marketing world in my life. The copyist of Codex Vaticanus had written in Hebrews 1:3, and a corrector had replaced that with the correct reading, (which is supported by all other manuscripts, including Papyrus 46). The primary Greek source for the King James Version was the 1598 version of Theodore Bezas Greek New Testament. This is particularly interesting when one turns to theEditionum Differentiae(Appendix III) in the 27thedition of NTG, which lists (among other things) the differences between NA27 and NA25. (And thats not including quotes by including the early church fathers). Please remember, the original Greek texts were all capital letters, so the translators added the capitals. Those three are probably the most well-known, but there are many more. The Westcott and Hort text is much simpler to define. Apologize for typos, kind of hurriedly typed that up on my phone. Church historian Timothy George says that Erasmus projects terminus a quo was 1504 when he discovered an ancient manuscript by Lorenzo Valla with notes about Pauls Epistles based on various Greek manuscripts. Metropolitan Hilarion (Alfeyev) notes: The second is the comparison of the Masoretic text to the Greek translation called the Septuagint (or LXX), which was written around 200-150 B.C. The grass withers, . He writes inChurch History(VIII:2): All these things were fulfilled in us, when we saw with our own eyes the houses of prayer thrown down to the very foundations, andthe Divine and Sacred Scriptures committed to the flamesin the midst of the market-places, and the shepherds of the churches basely hidden here and there, and some of them captured ignominiously, and mocked by their enemies. I have strong views on some scripture that I share with very few. And so saying, he took down from the corner of the room a bulky kind of volume, wrapped up in a red cloth, and laid it before me. This is our sample text Maybe you should have explained that, out of those manuscripts he consulted, he selected 7-8 fit enough to produce his text. from Princeton Theological Seminary in 1946 and taught there for five years. As weve already seen, Codex Vaticanus and Codex Sinaiticus were certainly of mediocre to poor quality. At what time did they stop having confidence that they knew the text they had was pure? Scarcely had he entered the room, when, resuming our former subject of conversation, he said: And I, too, have read a Septuaginti.e. . and Despite this weakness, in this authors humble opinion its more likely to have the closest readings to the original in a majority of places. The principle that the original reading may be found in any single manuscript or version when it stands alone or nearly alone is only a theoretical possibility. Here are five reasons why a dogmatically-driven adherence to the Textus Receptus - Textus Receptus-Onlyism, one might . And all the glory of man as the flower of the grass. It seems likely from Tischendorfs description that only some worn out pages from Sinaiticus were going to be burned, but its hard to be sure. Do you really know for a fact what those churches were using during that period, when you have less than 1% of the evidence? He put the universal Catholic epistles before Pauls so the beginning and ending letters of all of the epistles would form a mathematical pattern. And the man who found Codex Sinaiticus (Tischendorf) considered it the greatest find of his life, but still said: So, is there a Scribal preference to add rather than subtract? They knew clearly which ones were the true Words of God. The words are in English. Ive copy/pasted the two rules that conflict just below: Westcott & Hort rule #9: Prefer readings in manuscripts that habitually contain better readings, which is more certain if its also an older manuscript and if it doesnt contain combinations of other variations (as in rule #3). In their own words: All distinctively Syrian (Byzantine) readings must be at once rejected. Westcott & Hort, Again, in the last 100+ years weve found manuscripts that prove the Byzantine text type isnt a combination of the Western and Alexandrian text types. The Codex Vaticanus gets its name from the place where it was stored, the Vatican library. I would like to cite this article. One thing the KJV had translation rules that were decided by the politics of the time, and those rules included this: When a Word hath divers Significations, that to be kept which hath been most commonly used by the most of the Ancient Fathers, being agreeable to the Propriety of the Place, and the Analogy of the Faith. We dont have to wonder whether God merely preserved His thoughts, or His ideas. he defends the idea that the septuagint must be reestablished as the inspired old testament of the orthodox church and accepts at the same time the fact that the hebrew text (the masoretic text) might be included into orthodox biblical studies, but with the proviso that it suffered jewish deformations against the christians; "the superiority of So of course the NKJV has differences with the KJV in the underlying text since no one knows exactly what the KJV translators used. It seems obvious that the entire thing wasnt going to be burned. The Confessional Position is the exact opposite. Please explain to your readers the import of the perfect tense used here. I wonder if you have heard of Ivan Panin? Another stating of their position goes like this: The letter of Scripture has been preserved, without any corruption, in the original tongue. It doesnt mean that there arent battles that have to be fought and frauds to be exposed. Jesus Christ, Gods only begotten Son, is the Word made flesh that dwelt among us (II Corinthians 5:21; Romans 5:8-9; Romans 3:20-28; Acts 20:28; Romans 5:9; Ephesians 1:7; Colossians 1:14; Colossians 1:20; Ephesians 2:8-10; Revelations 1:5). Further, understanding how these rules work and their place in Bible history will help you understand the modern Critical Text. Is that really a position you want to take? PS: If possible please e-mail me unless I will get an email notification of a reply to this comment. I humbly suggest what was breathed-out by God and is profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness. Because Im However, I would only make that the starting point. The Biblical Case for the Doctrine of Preservation, The Biggest Problem with the Confessional Position, Okay, But is the Textus Receptus a good Document?, Summary of the Critical Text vs. He found the old testament was accurate. Happy indeed art thou, said the Stranger, would that I were likewise! Thats how it got its name because of a marketing ploy. Ive probably researched it over the years far more than most average lay folks, but its not something I can keep top of mind all the time. Lachmann went further than Bekker, showing how, by comparison of manuscripts, it is possible to draw inferences as to their lost ancestors or archetypes . While the character of the workers can shed some light on the work, I prefer to judge a work based on its merits, not what the authors might have believed. You are arguing from the side opposite of Gods promise to preserve His Word, and Im sure that you will never win. Weve been super busy. Not many people would sift through an 18k+ word article. In the Erasmus Textus Receptus section, you wrote: For a sense of scale, weve already seen that (doing the math and estimating) there are ~6470 textual variations between the Codex Vaticanus and Codex Vaticanus. The Septuagint is claimed to have been translated between 285-246 BC during the reign of Ptolemy II Philadelphus of Alexandria, Egypt. (Note: the He in the quote below is Dean Burgon). The Textus Receptus book. I say intentionally because in at least one place, theres no other reason to translate the way they did other than a desire to change the text. Textual criticism Certainly, the Word of God (Jesus, as in John 1:1) will live and endure forever. Whenever a woman puts on the head covering she is proclaiming a message to the angels. Further, theres no possible way that hippioi (horses) was intended. However, the King James Translators used the 1525-1525 Masoretic Text by Daniel Bomberg as the basis for the Old Testament. Textus Receptus is Latin for "Received Text." It was used as the textual base for the vernacular translations that arose during the Reformation period. I recommend my article: A Few Fun Things About Biblical (Koine) Greek since I have some resources at the end which should help. , (Note: I have an article on Whats the Best Bible Translation? All saving knowledge is obtained from the Word of God, through the Holy Spirit (Romans 10:17; I Peter 1:23; John 17:17; John 1:1; John 1:11-14; John 20:31). (Majority Text advocates disagree, but well look at their objection later.) One of the major underpinnings for the Majority Text theory is that scribes will generally choose to copy better manuscripts over worse manuscripts. It seems to me that while the scribe of Codex Vaticanus is certainly not the worst scribe ever (a title that must go to the scribe of Old Latin Codex Bobbiensis), his execution leaves something to be desired, and the claim that he hardly ever made blunders must be regarded as an exaggeration. I found a scribal error and did not want it passed down for the next 100 generations. However, the Confessional Position argues that it doesnt matter if God inspired the Scriptures if He didnt preserve them too. Because if you apply the same reasoning to Messianic prophecies in Psalms, it will show that those texts actually apply to David, not Jesus, etc. Its a great tool for those who dont know Greek or Hebrew, and a very useful tool even if you do. 5. He was fluent in German and Dutch, could communicate orally in Arabic and French and could understand and write Latin, Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic. Matthew 20:16 New King James Version (NKJV) While the Confessional Position holds no water, the Textus Receptus itself is a very good document. EDIT: I finally got around to writing an article on the topic, which you can read here: Does 1 Corinthians 11 Require Women To Wear Head Coverings. and you accidentally skip Codex Alexandrius is a very interesting manuscript in that in the Gospels, its a Byzantine text largely, which means it agrees with the majority of manuscripts most of the time. About the myth of Erasmus backtranslation, this site references some sources: However, it is also important to consider the nature of those differences. ), It is in fact easier to find two consecutive verses in which these two MSS differ the one from the other, than two consecutive verses in which they entirely agree.. Do you see the promise of preservation in the Scripture? I have a few books that help me find such things however, as I am sure you know, if someone has already done much of the legwork it gives you a good place to start. So no, this verse doesnt teach the Doctrine of Preservation. We can broadly class all Textual Variants into two classes. It goes like this: Please imagine that you were a scribe charged with copying the New Testament. No other early manuscript of the Christian Bible has been so extensively corrected, They range from the alteration of a single letter to the insertion of whole sentences, That gross blunder, whereby a clause is omitted because it happens to end in the same word as the clause preceding, occurs no less than, Vaticanus has 197 particular readings, while Sinaiticus has 443, together with theCodex Sinaiticus, as they have the same, are the only two manuscripts that share that characteristic, the differences among the manuscripts [of the Gospels] have become great. Since the rules are so central to their philosophy, well take some time to examine them. 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